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Hello everybody. Today, we have hopefully an interesting encounter. Hopefully we can have some fun.
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Yeah, let's try this. So, today the topic is performative methods or Performance Based Methods,
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which is a huge family of methods
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that we don't usually think about. This something that you do not find often in the
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textbooks, in the handbooks of methods, but they are extremely important and extremely popular
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especially when it comes to the work with special needs and vulnerable
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populations, and when it comes to work with participants that may
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have some barrier -can be a linguistic barrier, can be another kind of barrier- . So this is why I
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really would like you to to learn about these methods and to consider them. Of course as any kind of
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method you use
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it's part of a system. So you can also combine different methods, not necessarily use one
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single way of collecting data. So, let's move immediately to your question.
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Actually they are very very important questions. I really appreciate your
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commitment to this. You don't ask many questions, but when you ask a question is always a
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tough one for me. I appreciate this. So, let's start with the concept of embodiment.
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*Professor sharing his screen*
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Now you should be able to see it. Well, the first question about the concept of
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embodiment. Maybe if you had some courses, you are already familiar with this concept,
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but maybe not everybody. Also because it is a concept that somehow has
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slightly different meanings for different disciplines. Because it is used in phenomenology, it is
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used in in the Hutchins theory of distributed cognition, it is used
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neurosciences, it is used in psychoanalysis also. So, each one of
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these areas has a slightly different meaning for embodiment.
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So, I'll try to bring together all the the common traits. The idea of embodiment comes from a turn
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in philosophy and human in social sciences around the 70s. So, when there was a big effort to
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overcome the Cartesian dualism, the sharp seperation
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between mind and body. And the fact that these are two different domains and
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different people study these different aspects. But actually, the body turn during the 70's was
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exactly say that ''You cannot separate the mind and the body, because we are our bodies. '' This also
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started earlier
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with phenomenology of course. But it was kind of restricted. For instance, have you heard about
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people like Sartre, Merleau-Ponty? Which were kind of philosophers, psychologists...
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We started to reflect about the way how our body puts us into the world.
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So we are connected to our bodies, so it's not something separate, it's not a machine that we
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control with our minds, but also the body is our interface with the world.
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So, this general idea has been developed in different ways, but we can have some common traits.
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One idea is the idea of distributed cognition, extended cognition, extended mind, distributed mind.
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So the idea is that our cognition is not
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restored only in the brain, but all our body and all our peripheral central and peripheral nervous
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systems are part of our mind or our cognition and related to the world. For instance,
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the idea of gut feelings, so when
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you feel something with your guts,
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with your belly. Also, in Greek philosophy
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the mind or the emotions were located here and not in the brain. In ancient Greek philosophy the
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brain was not the most important part of our body. The idea is that we here have an
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incredible part of our nervous system. So, it is
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definitely true that we also experience the world with this part of the body. So that's just a
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metaphor, an example. At the same time, our cognition is not limited within the body.
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For instance, I imagine that when you have to make a calculation, you use a calculator, right?
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If I ask you, who is making the calculation?
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You or the calculator?
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What do you think? Both? So, our mind is distributed throughout our body, but also outside. So that's
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the idea of distributed cognition. The second important aspect of the embodiment idea is that our
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body is not only our body.
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Our body is a social arena.
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A lot of things happen on our body. Our body is shaped by culture. Why do you go to the gym?
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Why do you cut your hair in a certain way?
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This is how the culture is inscribed in our body. Why do you get tattoos?
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So it's not just the culture, which is shaping your body, but you and your body say something to the
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society. So it's an arena. It's especially important when we
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study special needs. Why? Because the body of the people with special needs is even
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more controversial arena.
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Just imagine for instance, how the society is controlling sexuality. Our sexuality is inscribed
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by society in our bodies. So for a long time, the body of people with some kind of special
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needs was asexual.
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So sexuality was not a right or pleasure for people disabilities.
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But that's a body.
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Another common point is the fact that we are egocentric.
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We are all egocentric. Why? Because our body is limiting our perception of the world. So, we see
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the word in this way. We don't have highs on the back. So the way we the perspective of the world
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the perspective in which we perceive the world is egocentric.
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It's a bodily thing. So, it depends on our biological structure. But it is also a
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psychological thing. So we perceive the world from our perspective. It's only through and
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forth that we can take the other person's perspective.
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And only by assuming that the other person is somehow similar to us.
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But also we are not only egocentric, because of the culture is inscribed in our bodies. We are also
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ethnocentric.
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We perceive the word starting from our own bodily embodied perspective, which is also a cultural
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perspective. Just imagine the importance of gaze.
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So we perceive the gaze from this perspective. This is our perception. But our
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gaze is cultural. Do you remember the observation things? But it is also because our
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culture tells us where to look.
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Some cultures don't want people to look straight in the eyes. This is highly aggressive and offensive
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In some cultures, people will look down and this will give them a completely different
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perspective on the world. What do you look in the people you meet? Do you look the shoes?
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You look to the face, the hair cut? This is cultural.
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The other important element that comes directly from the phenomenology is that our body is
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subject and object at the same time.
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So, reflection emerges from the fact that our body is the subject, so we are the subject, we have our
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egocentric perspective; But we are also the object, so we know that the others are looking at me, on my body.
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So, I see myself through the eyes of the others constantly and I know that the others are
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looking at me. So I feel
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as a subject who looks and an object who is looked at the same time. But it's not so easy.
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At the same time , I can also be subject and object of myself. So for instance, there is a famous example
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in Merleau-Ponty about the hand. So, my hand is the way I explore the word, I touch things.
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So, what happens when I touch my hand?
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With one hand, I touched my hand... So, I'm exploring with my body, but I am exploring my body as if
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it was an external object. I become subject and object at the same time of the experience
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of the world. This is very important because it has to do with the
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development of how our self-consciousness or how our self reflexivity,
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our self-awareness.
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So this is general embodiment. When you see this word in the text, it has to do with all these stuff.
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We should have one course only on embodiments. I try to sum up as much as possible.
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Questions? Comments? From home?
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Hmm. Yeah, that's not easy stuff.
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So next question.. Okay, very nice question actually and very challenging. Have you watched
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the video? This Britihs dance company? I got this question that I find
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very relevant. Why is it relevant for us?
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I don't want to tell you why it's relevant because it's not the same for everyone
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but let's start by your experience watching the that video.
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I don't know if you watched also the other videos, there are plenty of it. So, what was your
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feelings watching the video?
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Come on, don't be shy, be honest.
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From home? What was your first feeling?
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*student saying ''awkward''*
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Awkward?
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Yeah, definitely. What else?
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How did you feel?
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Nobody felt uncomfortable for instance?
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No feeling?
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Disturbed?
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Confused?
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Yeah, what else?
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Did for instance, did anybody simply loved it?
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Or had fun watching that video?
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No?
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No. Why?
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I cannot read the chat, so just tell me why.
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*Student talking, not detectable for subtitling*
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Yeah, exactly. You don't know if there is a message, very good. These are all very good
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observations. I must tell you one more thing. The video I linked was not the full
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performance.
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Because the full performance was a street performance. They performed in the streets of
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London, but they were dressed from old times, they had dresses from the 1920's 1930's.
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They were dressed like they went out for a dancing night and they were drunk
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in the mornin after.
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So, the performance, street performance, was super fun. You could not stop
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laughing at it. It was super ironic, super fun.
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Why do you think
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they do such kind of performance?
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One could say ''I didn't get the message, if there is a message. '' Okay, so what do
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you think can be the message?
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What did you bring back home after watching that performance?
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Any idea?
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Well, the point is exactly that
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why we study Performance Based methods. Because Performance Based methods, they are made to
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give you access to a level of experience, which cannot be reached in other ways.
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So, you first feel and then you reflect.
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That's the idea of Performance Based methods. So, that was not a representation of something, was not
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simply a show. They create a situation into which you first relate effectively
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so you experience something. It is awkward. Very good. It's somehow raising your curiosity.
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Curiosity, or the feeling that something is strange is exactly the stem for thinking.
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*student asking question, not detectable for subtitling*
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That specific performance is the kind of work that that company does. They don't
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do academic research. So, what they do is, they do work of reflection upon the disability.
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They try to represent the condition, the first person condition of disability.
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And they also denounce the stereotypes
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about disability and instead of writing a book, they create a performance. So that's the idea.
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I'm not sure if it's a specific research. For instance,
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there is another very nice performance, which is instead a community research and action based
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research, this company went to a village of fishermen --you know, fishing is kind of disappearing.
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especially the small fisher villages--, what they did together with the community, they
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created a performance about the story of the village. So, it was an action of community empowerment.
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That was a research for instance. I think you can find the show on the website.
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So, the idea is that through the performance
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you start questioning something, like values for instance. For instance, one example,
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can a person without the legs, have fun dancing?
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Your first answer would probably be no. Okay. Well, that performance is already questioning
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your assumption or stereotype of a person with that disability. It starts by surprise. You say ''Look, that's not
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possible. '' Oh, very good. Start with suprise. That's the starting of philosophy, used to say Aristotle.
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Aristotle said philosophy start with surprise, with amazement.
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So, that's why it is relevant. That's why it is relevant for us.
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Next question.
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''The role of audience in performative research'' Other very important question. Performative
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research is exactly doing research with the audience, not about the audience. So the audience is
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part of the process.
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It has two goals, to show something in such a way, that you experience it as a whole.
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Not only rationally but has a whole,
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you are immersed in an experience. But also, is really democratic and participative. Very often
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you ask the audience to be part of the creation of knowledge.
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I want to tell you a short story about a concrete example.
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A couple of years ago before the Covid, I was invited in Brazil to participate in a Performance
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Based project. So, there was a very nice theater company and they were collaborating with an
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association, an NGO, to prevent suicide.
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So, what they decided to do is to create a performance
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about suicide,
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and than they invited me and other psychologists to engage the audience after the performance.
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The performance was based on a very short novel of maybe the most famous Brazilian author of the
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19th century, Machado De Assis.
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It is a monologue. It is a monologue of a young man who is going to suicide.
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So it's like the last day of life, and it's incredible because you love a lot.
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So, can you imagine a guy telling you for one hour how he is going to kill himself and why, and
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can be funny? So it's a very nice novel and actually the play was very nice because
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all the time you shift from different feelings...
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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You cry, you love, you feel ashamed, you feel amazed. Somehow it's very powerful
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because it represents exactly the very complex emotional life of a person who is thinking about suicide.
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Well, we had this performance. There was the audience in the theater, and after the performance,
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the actors, the psychologists and the audience, sat all together and started to discuss about
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suicide, about the performance for quite a long time actually.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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Well, the amazing thing is that a lot of things started to happen. People started
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to talk about their personal stories related to suicide.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
00:26:20.600 --> 00:26:30.000
Than we started to talk about the prejudice. For instance, when someone in the family commit
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suicide, there is a shame on the whole family. So it's a tragedy that lasts after the suicide for the
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whole family, that has a kind of stigma. So, all these things started to emerge and
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people started to cry. It was an incredible experience. So, at the end of this experience,
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
00:26:51.050 --> 00:26:55.050
we all came out with a lot of new knowledge
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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about the experience of suicide, the social representation of suicide, how to prevent suicide of course.
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And our role as psychologists was basically to facilitate.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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So we didn't really have to give advice, because you cannot give advice in that condition.
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But they didn't need psychologist at that moment because all the group, all the
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community of the audience was creating new knowledge. What do you do with this new knowledge?
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Well, first of all, everybody was bringing back home this a new awareness about
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Treffsikkerhet: 89% (H?Y)
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suicide and new knowledge about suicide and suicide prevention. But for instance, we didn't
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recorded the debate, we decided not to record. But if we would have recorded that, that would have
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been a huge amount of data for a further analysis. So, such a thing, could not emerge in a
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focus group.
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Treffsikkerhet: 83% (H?Y)
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It's not the same that doing a focus group for instance.
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Treffsikkerhet: 81% (H?Y)
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It's much more. It's involving the active audience participation in the performance.
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So, that's an example. That's why it is important to use this, to ask people not only to answer our
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questions, but to have people doing things, that's the meaning of Performance Based research.
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So, we do things together with our participants.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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Is it clear?
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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Questions?
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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From home?
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Treffsikkerhet: 69% (MEDIUM)
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No, okay.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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The challenge today was to try to design this activity for both people here and people at home.
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That was really a challenge. I hope we have everything here in the classroom.
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Nevertheless, I think that this is something that you should try.
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Treffsikkerhet: 90% (H?Y)
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Or at least, should start thinking about ''why?''. Because, you are supposed to work with special needs
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people and special needs people often have an intersection of conditions that can limit the
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use of some methods.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
00:29:59.450 --> 00:30:08.750
So, body mapping is really effective. I use it a lot. It's used a lot in disability studies
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it's used a lot with people with people with chronic illnesses, it's used a lot in
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study with situation of abuse for instance. So, these are all areas in which you may work.
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Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y)
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And it's also used as therapical tool. So you may, one day, need to use it.
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So, now we will take more time to do this, because it requires some time. I will give you the instructions
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and then we think we can have a break.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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Okay, the same structure. Up there, there is some material for you in the room.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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At home, you can take the material that you have there. But it's not so complicated. So now we
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have a break, you have the time to create the groups and to find the material that you want.
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Treffsikkerhet: 75% (MEDIUM)
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Re-instruction.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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How to do this? In your group... You have to choose one
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Treffsikkerhet: 85% (H?Y)
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person who is the participant and I need at least two more persons. One is the interviewer,
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who's asking question. And one is the observer. Actually, you could also record with
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your phone the whole thing. Of course, you have to delete it afterwards. So you
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can watch afterwards how does it work.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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So these are the instruction for home and the classroom.
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You take a big piece of that roll of paper. Then you have
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scissors, color paper, crunchy paper,
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you have feathers, you have scottch tape
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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you have a lot of stuff there. So take what you want from there. The first step
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is, one lays on the ground and the interviewer is drawing the shape of the body on the paper.
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You can do whatever you want, you can take the position you want.
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Treffsikkerhet: 89% (H?Y)
00:33:02.350 --> 00:33:10.300
Than, you start decorating the shape of the body during the interview. So, the interviewer will ask you,
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for instance, when do you feel lonely? For instance... Does it makes you feel
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something, in some part of the body? The person says ''Yes, here. '' Okay, how would you draw this
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feeling? Which color is this feeling? So this is how you develop the interview.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
00:33:32.250 --> 00:33:41.900
Try to do a little bit of interview. Try to do a little bit of observation...
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So try to develop your own interview about the experience of loneliness
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or solitude. At home, unfortunately you cannot draw the whole body, but one person can choose to
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draw a part of the body. So you take a piece of paper and
NOTE
Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
00:34:02.150 --> 00:34:09.300
draw a part of your body --can be hand, the head, your leg, whatever--. And, you have one
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interviewer and one observer as well. The observer takes notes and record what is happening.
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Yeah, that's it. Is it clear? Please don't ask me afterwards to repeat the instruction. If you
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don't understand something, ask me now.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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Okay.
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Treffsikkerhet: 91% (H?Y)
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Is it clear? Also from home?
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Treffsikkerhet: 74% (MEDIUM)
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Student from zoom: So our questions are going to
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focus on the concept of loneliness? *** Professor: The experience, the experience or solitude.
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Student: Okay, thank you. *** Professor: Yeah, that's it. So now we have a break. At 11 o'clock we are back.
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Maybe we can.
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Treffsikkerhet: 79% (H?Y)
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also do something, you can work in groups of three if you want instead of four or five. It's up
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to you. Also at home, we can create rooms of three, maximum four people. Yeah, that's it.
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Then we meet again 10 minutes, 15 minutes before the end. So we have a briefing. Fine?
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Clear? Great.
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Treffsikkerhet: 77% (H?Y)
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So, I stop recording now, and we have a break.