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*starting from second sixteen*
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Okay, so I think we can start. Hi everybody.
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Welcome back. Today it's more intimate and
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familiar like this, right? So today was a bit harder with more stuff to read but it was
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actually very important because today we are going to work on the interviewing, which is
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another basic very basic skill no matter which method you want to use.
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So today as usual, we'll have the first half for question and answer and then we will do some kind of
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practice on interviewing. Before starting, actually I got some questions and I think I need to
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point out a couple of things.
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So first of all, some of you wrote me about the late assignment, and actually it was very hard to
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for me to understand.
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What's that? I never gave an assignment. Of course, the Sped students they really have a ... (undetected)
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but that's another thing. So I would like to clarify something guys. In my view, we are not at
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school. We are being trained together as professionals, so no homework.
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It's not about homework, it is not an assignment. What I tried to set up is the opportunity to
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have to go deeper and go beyond the reading, not just repeating things that you can already read in
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the books. So this idea of the questions and comments time is an opportunity, it is not an
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assignment. So this is the opportunity for you to
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ask things that you don't understand clearly from the readings, but also the opportunity for you to
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bring something to the group. So it's not an assignment. I'm asking you to do that because I think
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it's important for the learning process of all of us. The second thing is I want
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to make clear, as you have seen
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we have these practical activities that so far in small groups. It was really a challenge
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to design these during the corona time and with this kind of strange splitting between home and the
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classroom, but the small group work is part of the learning process. So it's not something
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that we do just like this.
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It's also part of the learning process working in groups, and not working in groups
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of friends that, you know since the high school. In your profession, you will work in teams and you
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will work with any kind of people. So that's part of the learning process, how to deal with
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people you don't know very well, how to understand each other, how to build the collaboration.
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The third, questions I got about these joint lecture. Again, this is part of the learning
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process as well, for two very important reasons. The first one is that, all of you are
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going to work in more and more multicultural environments. Probably you know this. And it's very
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important that in your learning process, you include also
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the fact working with the maximum of diversity in any case. Also because,
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we are not only here to take, but also to give. It means that each one of us has a
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different experience and this is a richness. This is something that other faculties do not have so
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much, so make profit of this.
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So the fact that the groups for instance are mixing the Sped and Sne students is
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part of the learning process. I want you to work with any kind of people and learn how to do that.
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That's very important. That's very important, I think especially when you do qualitative research,
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but not only, also when you will do your profession. So, these were the some questions I got and
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I wanted to explain the reason for this.
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Saying that, I expect from you to be professionals, to be open, to be collaborative and
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to be ready to learn. So let's go, let's move to the questions I received this week
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- actually not this week, it's actually yesterday because time was really narrow,
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a lot of readings in few days - However, I got a group thing in the
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questions and I got very different and sometimes very difficult things to handle. I had to work
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until late night yesterday to answer these questions. And I'm not still sure I answered properly,
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but I will try. So I will talk about four topics and I will try to be as fast as possible
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because I want to give more space to the training through today because it is very important.
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So the first question is a very specific question and
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it has to do with a particular concept or word which is used in the chapter on
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the form of question, in surveys. So what is the idea? Someone asked me to clarify.
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the difference between straightforward mapping and complicated mappings in surveys
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question. I took this question as very relevant. Why? Because it's actually
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touches the core of the chapter, which is the fact that no matter how much standardized your
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instruments are - for insance very standardized, highly standardized survey -
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it's still a process of meaning making and interpretation. So you can never take for granted
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that your understanding what is written on the survey item and you understand the
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meaning of the participant are equal. And this is very very important sometimes. The chapter
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gives a lot of examples.
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Usually the idea of interpretation is somehow opposed to the idea of objectivity. So an
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objective instrument is the one that leaves no space for interpretation.
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On the question, for instance. So everybody is interpreting the question the very same way... That's
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impossible, completely impossible. It's kind of ideal condition that will be never be
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reached. So, of course you can try to approximate to kind of shared understanding, but
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interpretation is always there and you must be aware of it. Okay?
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So what does mean mapping?
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The idea of mapping is that we use language to map reality into the question, somehow. In the case of,
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the example of straightforward and complicated mappings has to do with how much freedom or
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space for the interpretation of the answer by the participant is provided.
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when you ask apparently standardized question. And in the chapter you have the example,
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like for instance, if I ask you, what's your name?
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Well, it looks like a very straight-forward questions. Okay, you can answer. Well, in the United States
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that will be a bit more complicated as well as in Latin America, because in the United States you of
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often have the middle name.
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In Latin America, in Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries you can have like one Juan Carlo de Souza
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Santos bla bla. So in everyday life, you say I'm Juan Carlos de Souza, but in official answers you should
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provide all your name, second name and parents name, so it can be six-seven words.
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So even this very simple question have can have at least two interpretations.
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So you see how it's always there? Neverthless, these kind of question can
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be considered straightforward mapping. So they leave a short space for interpretation.
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That also mean knees interpretation. So two people can answer the same question, imagine
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that you asked ''how many family members you have in your family? '' Apparently it's kind of
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straightforward. You say we are four, we are six... But two people can have
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different meaning of
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family members.
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How many family members do you have? *students says 3*
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Three, okay.
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Which is? *students says my father, mother, brother*
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What about your grandparents? What about your uncles?
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Cousins? Are they part of the family or not? *student saying no*
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Okay, that's your answer. Another person coming from a different cultural
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background will answer 20.
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Of course, grandparents, my cousins, my uncles are part of the family. Of course, sometimes they
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live together. So you see, the chapter is about this.
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Okay, this is about apparently, simple questions. Okay?
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The example provided in the chapter talks about when you have, for instance, surveys about your daily
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behavior. There is one example about furnitures. Did you buy new
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furnitures last year?
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It looks like a easy and straight-forward scenario. Well, it depends what you mean
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by furnitures.
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Okay, did you buy Furnitures? *student says ''yes, drawer''*
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What about the lamp? Is it a furniture or not? What about the ceiling lamp? Is it a furniture or not?
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What is the problem? The problem is that when you are the interviewer
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and you are told that you should strictly follow the script and never give explanations to
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the interviewee, how can you be sure that he got the question in the right way.
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So what I want you to take from this is that you can never escape the
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problem of meaning. It's always there.
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I found this striking, the last result that is presented in the chapter.
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If you have to do with this so-called complicated mappings. So when you are
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asking question about scenarios that can be articulated that can include a lot of
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cultural differences. Well, even the standard, so-called standardized
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questions, they work only less than 1/3 of the time.
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So it's basically the same as a semi-structured interview.
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So, that's thedifference. So next question, very important question about the concept of emergence
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that you find in the chapter on focus groups. The chapter is how we can allow emergence in focus
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group interviews. What is emergence?Have you ever heard about Gestalt Psychology?
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It's about emergence. So the room
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has properties that the single parts do not have.
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And these properties emerge or become acquired by the room only when the room is working
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together. That's a very basic principle of System Theory,
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which is present in a lot of psychological theories, of educational
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theories and can take different names. *giving examples of different names of it but it's undetectable to subtitle*
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We don't recognize faces by it's
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single parts. To recognize the face, you see the eyes, the mouth... I recognize a
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physiognomy. So, the totality, the combination. You find this concept everywhere. That's why it's
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very important. And also tells has something that if we want to understand the emergence,
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the emerging properties, we always have to study the room. In the
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case of the focus group chapter it says two things, we can consider the emergence at two
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different levels. In a focus group, we can consider the emergence if we understand that a
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group is more than the sum of the individuals, a group is not just four or five individuals
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together.
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When you put this individuals together, something new comes out. How can we become aware of what is
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coming out? Kurt Levine group theory is based on this principle for instance. The second is the
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idea that - and that's the methodological innovation proposed in the chapter - is that
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a rule can also be a set of focus groups. So different focus groups can have emergent properties
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than a single focus group. What kind of
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system of focus groups can we create? There are two possibilities. We can consider
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the same group of people over time, how it develops over time. And consider, the different encounters
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as a system, as a whole. And we can try to see what is emerging
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in the process during the different encounters or we can consider different groups has a rule. So we
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can collect, we can observe the emerging properties, in the sense what we know,
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what we learn from these groups when we put together different groups. So for instance, imagine
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that you want to know something about how people perceive disability in society.
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How people make sense of disability in society.
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If you interview individually, the people, you will learn something. If you put them together in
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one single focus group, something new will emerge from that focus group discussion that you can
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grasp.
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If you put together the same focus group over time, the discussion will develop further. So some new
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properties will emerge. So you will learn something new about the idea, the meaning-making of
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disability in society. Now, that's one way of allowing emerging properties to come out, another
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way is; imagine that you have
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one focus group of children,
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kindergarten children. One focus group of high school students.
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One focus group of elders. And you observe the discussion in these 3 groups
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groups and putting together what is coming out from these three discussions, you will learn
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something. Like, for instance, how the meaning-making is acquired during the age development, and
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how for instance children - That's just a hypothesis. I'm not saying it's true - but,
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how children and elderly... Maybe they have something in common in their understanding of this. So it's
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it's a very important starting point for further research. Oh, how is
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possible that the elders and children they share some understanding of disability.
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You see, something new is emerge and you can go investigate that, that's the idea of
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emergence. Hope it was clear.
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Any question?
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Okay.
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Next. That's a great question about the goal of interview.
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If we can use the school and the surrounding as a setting for the
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interview... Of course we can, of course we can.
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I would not say that we must use this and only this, for instance the school. And of course there are
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several studies that do this. For instance I am participating in a research project in Brazil,
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which is exactly about the everyday transition from the community to school of
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children and adolescence living in poor communities. There are in Brazil, there are in some
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special parts of the town called Favelas, which are basically
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low income families and these communities are - one community in particular - is completely surrounded by
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very rich neighborhoods.
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It was actually a very old community, which is completely surrounded by very rich and you have
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police at the border of this community. Children, every day they have to go out from
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their community and go to the school outside, have to cross these checpoints of police.
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So we are using exactly go along interviews
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to study the experience of this children who are migrating or making a transition every day from
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their community in which they are just members of their community and their families, they go to
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school and they become immediately poor students.
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Oh, you come from the poor community. So, all the expectations, for instance about your performance,
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are somehow prejudiced by this. Than you go back home and you're just a member of your community.
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Nobody's considering you are a poor boy, for instance. And so that's exactly how you use the goal
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of interview. And the other important thing is
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that we usually have this idea
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of the context. So, okay, you have here, you have your context
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which is home context and then you have the school context. If you pick
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the child
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from one context to the other, something will change. You can study this change. As in the context
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is something fixed, already given and you just pick one person from one context to the other and see
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what happens. So that's one perspective to see it. What if, instead
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it is the opposite. It's the child, it's actually the child's movement, which is actually
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connecting the home and school, creating a system? Without the child, for instance, the parents and
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the teacher will never meet.
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So is the child, who is creating the relationship between school and family for instance? Just
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an example. Another type of study which has been done, imagine a
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person with some kind of disability. You can interview this person about the problems and the
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barriers or you can have a goal on interview with this person, with this child for instance
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about going from home to school everyday.
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Imagine how more rich and powerful will be this go along interview, in this case from home to
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the neighborhood.
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Or something about young girl, going from home to school and going on interview about the
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sense of safety or unsafety. How do you perceive safety or an unsafety? For instance I did this
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kind of study, not with a young girl, but with the woman walking from the center of the town
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to the periphery of the town. How do you know that you are in the periphery?
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They're just walking the streets. How do you know that you are now in the periphery and you start
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feeling somehow a bit more unsafe?
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How this happens, what are the signs
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that makes you perceive this? So these are the all examples of how you can apply this to school and
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local settings.
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What time is it? Sorry.
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*student telling the time* Okay, just the last question.
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Actually you gave me a lot of work this time. So the last question is very, very important as well.
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Can we generalize by interviewing the same group of people that in an earlier study? Okay,
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I can interpret. I had the complicated mapping on this question, actually.
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So I interpreted in two ways. The first is, I interpret this question as a question about replication.
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I will tell you something about replication, you know that from also the other lectures
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that replicability is one of the of the of the quality
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dimensions of research. But what does replicability mean? What does it mean to replicate a study or
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research? So, a replication is an independent repetition of a study. You can have different
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kind of replications.
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First, exactly trying to replicate the study. So you use the same participants, data, methodology and see
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if it works. You can have a replication in which you use the same procedure but with new data,
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so you collect new data and see if it works, if the hypothesis is still working.
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Or you can have replication, which is called conceptual replication. It means, I don't want to know if the
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researcher, the first researcher did right. I want to know if the hypothesis or the concept
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that the researcher, the first researchers used is valid. In this case I can create a different
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procedure or different data or different population and replicate the study in such a way that the
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concept is still there, but the procedure is different. So these are three example
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of replication. Probably you have heard
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that psychology is in a replication crisis. Have you ever heard about this?
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The replication crisis?
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No.
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Okay. A few years ago there was a big boom in experimental psychology, because some people started
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to try to replicate the famous studies in Psychology, experimental studies in psychology, and they failed.
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So a lot, a lot of studies that we consider like the milestones in experimental psychology,
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if you try to replicate them, they fail. You don't get the same results.
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And it was a really big thing.
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It was a world crisis and it led to, it still leading to a great debate about... You know,
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some results, they discovered that some results were simply fake.
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Just the researcher faked the results. Faked data.
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Imagine you're a big name in pyschology, because you discovered some
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famous psychological effect and than 20 years later, someone discovers
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that you faked your data.
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Just an example, but it's been a big debate. Actually in the first article,
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in the first exercise we did, there was a mention of this replication crisis in Psychology. So, are we
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really doing something useful for society? So that's the concept of replication. There is also
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another way
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- which is for me more interesting way to understand that question - if, let's say
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that we take people from a study done by someone else ten years before and then we go back to
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these people and interview them again.
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After 10 years. Can we learn something?
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It can be a follow-up study, of course.
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But we can also maybe interview those people on the same topic of the first study and see how
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something changed, or how they changed. For instance, another question would be how those people have
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changed, participating to that study. Because we don't consider...
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You remember the concept of emergence, a system. When we as a researcher enter in a relationship with
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a participant, we create a system.
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And when a system is created, you just don't break it by interrupting the relationship.
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When you enter in a relationship with any human being, you change. So, you as a researcher change and
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he or she as a person has changed. So that will be a study. And actually I have an example of this
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study, very short story. Let me tell you a story.
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Maybe some of you have heard of a very famous psychology experiment called ''Obedience'' by famous
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psychologist called Stanley Milgram.
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You may know this experiment because it was the experiment in which there was one fake researcher
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and one real participant. And the participant was told to give electric shock to a fake person.
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Now you know it, right? Okay. So, what we know from this experiment
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experiment is that a surprisingly high
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quantity of people accepted to give electric shock, only to obey the researcher, and that was
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very surprising. But what we don't usually know is that after this, there were interviews with
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the participants.
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And the interview, the way people make meaning of this, is the most interesting part of the study.
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So that's the story, 20 years after this famous experiment, one journalist tried to find one of
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the original participants and interview this person on his experience. He was an
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old Jewish guy.
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And during the interview, this man said: Of course, I never even thought about giving an
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electric shock someone.
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So it's not true that people simply obeyed the researcher authority. People making a
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lot of sense of it. So you see, he says: I'm Jewish, how can I even think doing this in the 1950s?
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After the second world war... to do something like this, or to obey such kind of of authority? Of
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course, no way.
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If you look, if you read carefully to the data and you carefully read the interviews,
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you realize that, that was just kind of headline. So many people, %46 of people gave
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a strong electric shock only to obey the researcher. Actually, the situation was more much more
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complex and you can discover this only if you go back and interview the same group of people after years.
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Okay, that's an example. And this is not considered replication by the way
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in methodological terms. I think that was the last question. Yes, okay. What time is it?
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Okay, 5 to 13.00 perfect. So we have enough time. Okay, today we work a little bit on interviews.
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It's basically very easy. I ask you to interview someone on the spot.
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It's easy, don't worry. So here, what I would like to. I actually have to say something
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before this, even though you will find this. I would like to think about, reflect a
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little bit about the slides later. Okay, so when you start the interview,
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I want you to keep in mind that this is not kind of a aseptic or
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distance operation. You are entering into a social relationship.
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How do you enter to the social relationship? How do you gain the trust of another person? How do you
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empathize with another person?
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Imagine that someone stops you in the streets and ask you ''Oh, when did you have sex
00:39:57.200 --> 00:40:04.100
last time? '' You would say ''Are you crazy?!'' Now imagine, imagine a child. You go to school and start
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asking ''How many times you do something during the week? '' Why should I answer you?
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What kind of relationship are we able to establish with people?
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Start thinking about this. Where this happens?
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What is the real setting? Usually they tell you that an interview should happen in a quiet place,
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you know, just sitting on two sides of the desks in a kind of neutral and quite situation. That's
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not neutral at all. It looks like you're at the doctor office. So what would be instead a different
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setting for an interview? So think about this aspect. Now I give you the task. People from
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home can do that as well very easily. Okay, so we form our groups.
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This time bit smaller, around four people. Of course, if you are three or five it's not a
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problem. But if you are in mixed group, I want you to collaborate.
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And also, just check the language. So, of course, you have one group speaker.
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One person from the group you choose is the interviewer and the other one is the interviewee.
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No matter, you choose. The other people have the task
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to carefully observe the interaction and they will take notes and give feedback on the interview.
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I will give you some leading questions. Some things you have to care about, special.
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It's very easy.
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You just think how to ask questions. More or less you have 25 minutes
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for the interview. But I think only 15 minutes will be necessary, you can already do a
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very good interview. After the interview,
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00:42:44.350 --> 00:42:56.149
the work group is starting to discuss. What I suggest is the following: First, the interviewer is
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sharing his or her own impressions. ''Oh, I think I could do this, I did this. '' Okay, than the
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:11.100
interviewee, the participant is telling his perspective and you will see how these perspectives are
00:43:11.100 --> 00:43:14.650
really different sometimes.
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00:43:14.650 --> 00:43:24.350
Than the observers give their feedback. This is actually how you train to interview
00:43:24.350 --> 00:43:33.100
professionally. This is exactly what you do in a interview training. You have the couple and you
00:43:33.100 --> 00:43:37.100
have the observer, or the supervisor.
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Yeah, is it clear? Any question?
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I'm giving you very, very easy tasks. So this is what the observer should keep in
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:09.500
mind. I will give you this, I will leave this last slide online in the group's.
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We can copy and paste.
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00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:28.300
Okay, so think about this. Do I need to explain something?
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Not for the moment. I would like you to try the first time in a very naive way.
00:44:37.899 --> 00:44:50.200
Don't think in too complicated terms. Think about establishing a relaxed and trustful
00:44:50.200 --> 00:44:55.600
conversation. That's the basic of interview.
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00:44:55.600 --> 00:45:06.200
Clear? Super. Let's take a break now. So in 10 minutes, back to the interview.
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Just one more thing. For you in presence you can do whatever you want.
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You can go outside, meet in the garden, wherever. Than we meet back here. Like, what time is it now?
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Exactly 13.00. So we meet here, let's say at quarter to 14.00 for the feedback,
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for a final breefing. Let's go.